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The event that really sets this story in motion, the set of events, happened a few months after Barbara had brought Destiny home. I wouldn't want to put it up to chance, because what kind of life is that? Then, Carl told us about this research that showed JAD: Well, he couldn't quite remember the details. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. In any case, what they saw at the end of all this counting wasWell, first of all, what they saw was this pattern that rat pups who got licked a lot as babies, when they grew up, they licked their babies a lot and the rat pups who didn't get licked a lot, when they grew up, they didn't lick their babies. JAD: And thats wrong [laughs].Thats not how it works. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? [laughs] Can you say, "Never, ever?" What's he talking about? This lady right here is still taking drugs and she could be pregnant again next month.]. I said, "This will be the last one. I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. CARL ZIMMER: Lamarckism pretty much died there. Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. But I take it that we have more control over our destinies and our kids' destinies than we would've thought. To learn more about higher level giving opportunities please contact the Development Office at giving@nypublicradio.org or (646) 829-4130. ], What's the worst thing you have been called by one of your critics?]. You must have internet access to do this). ROBERT: And youre saying that part of the DNA is covered up? I mean, I'm married to a Black man. They all go down to the DNA, surround that methyl and just, pow! We talked to her for a little while and At a certain point the social worker pulls out a stack of papers. DESTINY HARRIS: I do mean that. I make a difference to her. JAD: How do those cycles perpetuate? ROBERT: Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. Never mind, you're stuck with small boobies." It's off-limits. We inherited this beloved show that we first fell in love with as listeners. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Probably racist.]. JAD: His reputation was that he could get inside the mind of, say, a salamander and know just what it wanted to eat. I don't like to upset people. As he's doing his rounds, he stops by the midwife toad terrarium, he looks down at that little male toad with grapes stuck to his legs and he wonders, "How adaptable is that little guy?" All these women who have so many babies and never try to seek drug treatment. PAT: If Barbara had gotten to Destiny's birth mom, Destiny, Kalia, this moment, none of it would exist. That's how I've always looked at it. I'm graduating in December. If you were a boy in verkalix between the ages of 9 and 12 years old, that's the window, 9 to 12, you're a boy, and then we have one of those terribly rough winters, and you're eating much less than normal. And I've got say, I'm feeling pretty good about this show so far. Whole lifetime of stretching. And um BARBARA HARRIS: I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. It says, "Race of Supermen." Why would that happen? PAT: And Barbara found herself returning to a thought she'd kind of always had. SAM KEAN: What's happening during this time is that you're setting aside the stock of cells that you're going to draw on in the future to make sperm cells. And he said, "Barbara, I'm not buying a school bus." ROBERT: They won't grow much on the outside, but on the inside OLOV BYGREN: That is the time where the sperms are developing. JAD: Or very many of them right at all, but, you know, his basic idea seems to be true. My mom needed a girl and, boop! And looking at these swings in fortune, Olov realized what he had here was Because with all this data, he and his team could follow families forward in time, through the generations. BARBARA HARRIS: I already knew that if I ever got a little girl, I was going to name her Destiny. Wait, when you say they can choose to be sterilized, you mean permanent? SAM KEAN: Really slowly, gradually, achingly slowly. SAM KEAN: Yeah, it was a very attractive theory to them in Moscow. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Yeah, lets read.]. PAT: She just knew, "This is my daughter.". JAD: Stretching got into the baby. One-fourth? Part 2 of our collaboration with Radiolab. [chuckles]. And all over the political spectrum, from Hollywood lefties to social conservatives. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. He was known for going around and giving, what he called, his big show lectures, where he would wow whole audiences of people. JAD: I mean, were not gonna do that ourselves. Move on to the next cage yes, no? I mean, when you think of Kammerer, there was a report in science outlining a theory about how Kammerer's toads got these characteristics that invoked these epigenetic inheritance and imprinted genes and it made it plausible. Maybe more. We talked to her for a little while and PAT: At a certain point the social worker pulls out a stack of papers. BARBARA HARRIS: Barbara Harris. Lynn has become one of Barbara's fiercest critics. This lady right here is still taking drugs and she could be pregnant again next month.]. JAD: Started with the tongue. See, this is the story of science that doesn't get told. Destiny says one day, she and her mom were in the car, and her mom said She said, "I don't know, you know, maybe they'll grow bigger? We'll just be honest. You got to help boost if you had a starving grandfather. I wouldn't want to put it up to chance, because what kind of life is that? I don't know where she gets that from. And in1923, he actually comes to England. He's 22, 23, and he already had this reputation for being amazing at keeping animals alive, that otherwise would just die. She started to wish again that she could have a daughter. Wow. CARL ZIMMER: And he makes a very careful study of this hand. Michael was in school and he got interested in a very, very basic question about how things get passed down? So yeah, she keeps me busy. JAD: So heres the backstory. BARBARA HARRIS: This is 750 and this is 200. BARBARA HARRIS: And I was a waitress, I worked for IHOP for over 30 years. And when she had a baby. But, I said this to Lynn, "Despite all the things that trouble me about Barbara's program, I feel like what she's trying to do is to stop a kid from getting born into a childhood that's going to suck.". She said, "Well, she's just beautiful and she has lips like a baby doll." CARL ZIMMER: So they can grab onto the female and hold tight while they're mating. His example with humans was a blacksmith. Support Radiolab by becoming a member of The Lab today. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Jans Olaf, Hanna Kaiser, Heinrik Venvei. Because he couldn't hold formula down. Where we sought, they will find. His big idea, as you might know, is that what a person does in their lifetime could be directly passed to their kids. LATIF: And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when were recording this, we have not broken the show. I just got custody of my eight-year-old son. So heres the backstory. Here's what Olov says he found in the data. In any case, these books tell you when each of these folks died, how they died. It happens. I'm almost done. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. It was something they acquired during their lifetime. ROBERT: But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. He said, "If you were a boy, and you starve between the ages of 9 and 12, and then you went on to become a father, then a grandfather, your grandkids". CARL ZIMMER: That's the kind of guy he is. And that's when things would start to get out of control. JAD: The sneaky idea here is that the blacksmiths, the giraffes, they made it happen. BARBARA HARRIS: Saying the mother had given birth to a baby girl, did we want her? SAM KEAN: And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. That doesn't matter. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: To any drug-addicted woman who will agree to have no more babies. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You would be licking them quite a lot. JAD: So we're going to leave you with a story from our producer, Pat Walters, about one woman's radical JAD: A few months ago, Pat made his way down in North Carolina, to a small suburb outside of Charlotte to visit this family. You know? PAT: Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed DESTINY HARRIS: Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. BARBARA HARRIS: Because he couldn't hold formula down. If you start smoking when you're 10, 11 something like that, you end up having children with more problems. Who are they? ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. CARL ZIMMER: She is nine. And they had more. More of this particular protein. Kammerer thought, "Wow. I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. ROBERT: One-fourth? Kammerer, for one, was sent off to work as a sensor for the Austrian military. LULU: And were trying to think about how do we keep it the same in a lot of ways, but also how do we let it grow into something beyond what it was originally built to be. Oh actually, real thing, before we go, Latif. But I'm going to give them a basin of water. He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. And The other day someone was whistling and I was like, "Stop it", and it just hit me, I was like, "Oh God, I was him", it's never appeared until now. I'm Sam Kean's dad. JAD: That's against the rules. And the key point is that it wasnt something inborn in them. I know I've been joking a lot in this interview, but I mean it with all that I am. He was really one of the first grand theorists in biology. But luckily for the Vivarium and for our story, they had a guy. That's what good rat mothers do, they lick their babies a lot. PAT: Filled with dozens of letters from women that she's paid. You must have internet access to do this). PAT: So Barbara and her son got in the car and drove across town to the foster home where Destiny had been living for the past eight months. Here, Kammerer's was saying, "You can do this even on a physical level.". ROBERT: You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? Inheritance | Radiolab Podcast 4,710 views Apr 8, 2022 Radiolab 43.8K subscribers From the Radiolab podcast: How your grandfather's diet can affect your lifespan, heart health and even. This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. And you have to bear in mind that at this point, it only had one hand left. JAD: Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. ], Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], I didn't say I'm God. Or is it? [ARCHIVAL CLIP, Jad Abumrad: Do you see the owl?]. They began to grow these all puffy things on their hands. SAM KEAN: And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. My name is Jean Kean. Well, its offensive. Radiolab - Transcripts Subscribe 187 episodes Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Environmental Biology Radiolab - Inheritance Due to Haiku by Monday March 3rd Name: Dmitry Matveev Date: LYNN PALTROW: The fact that you're motivated by a really beautiful, important value, that we want healthy kids, doesn't mean the mechanism you're using is going to end up helping those kids. So. And then that baby would stretch and stretch, and it would give a little more stretching to its baby. Well, so here's the thing. PAT: Watching this, I couldn't help but think that Destiny's very existence is probably the most interesting argument against what Barbara is doing. That's 9, 10, 11. PAT: But were getting ahead of ourselves here. CARL ZIMMER: I just have to read this to you. ROBERT: Interestingly, the church has also kept track of the farmers' SAM KEAN: How much they were growing each year. But in the middle of a conversation about how to fight the virus, we find a place impervious to the stalled plans and frenetic demands of the outside world. You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? Radiolab is on YouTube! Test the outer edges of what you think you know. His famous example was giraffes. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. They decided to explore this question, They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". Radiolab is on YouTube! And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. She should be with me. CARL ZIMMER: And he says, "This isn't a nuptial pad, it looks darkened but that's just ink.". Its so good that it makes you not want to trash the house, you know what I mean? When they got another call from a social worker saying that same mother, Destiny's birth mother, had given birth to another child. I don't think that puts me in the same category as Hitler. Now the Sweden story from our last segment left us both feeling a little strange. A few years later, there'd be a harsh winter. Edward Condon Session III American Institute of Physics. Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. We went to the foster home and went in. The show is known for innovative sound design, smashing information into music. This is spooky because it's like JAD: It means what if grandpa has a bad day? So they can grab onto the female and hold tight while they're mating. JAD: Michael and Frances looked inside the brains of these rats and what they saw was that the rats who had been licked a lot as babies, they had more stuff in their head. She'll be two in January. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: [laughs[ Exactly. Inheritance Radiolab Podcast Genetics Homework Assignment Homework assignment on the Radiolab podcast 'Inheritance', developed for a college-level cell biology class. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. How was this woman allowed", BARBARA HARRIS: "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". As to diabetes, it was a four-fold risk. The reason they're more aroused is that the mom's licking activates the release of adrenaline and noradrenaline in the pup. And at a certain point, I noticed over my shoulder Barbara's crouched down and she's got her phone out and she's taking a picture of this just perfect little scene. I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. DESTINY HARRIS: No, she was an oops kid. Even though Destiny's mom was doing all sorts of drugs during her pregnancy and the doctors told Barbara that Destiny was going to be mentally and physically delayed Not feeling the way I'm supposed to feel. [expletive] That was awesome. Hi, this is Will, calling from Northumberland, England. I'm graduating in December. You got your good parents and your bad parents. Females seem to hate laying eggs in the water, but is that the end of the story? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You know, you've got all these chemicals around. Sat her on my lap, with her little dress on and her little curly hair. ROBERT: Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. BARBARA HARRIS: Yes, she has the same name as me. OLOV BYGREN: It was very interesting discovery. ROBERT: But then, a few years would pass, crops would bounce back. If . You know, inside these cells, in the center, coiled up in little spools, is the DNA. LYNN PALTROW: Well, her explanation is that these women are having, in her terms, litters of damaged babies and society forever will be responsible for them. Inheritance, what you can move on to the next generation and what you can't. [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These people are paying millions of dollars to take care of your children!]. Yep, Im a professor in the faculty of medicine at McGill University in Montreal. JAD: They all go down to the DNA, surround that methyl and just, pow! ], Sterilized? And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. It was just no baby should have to come into the world like that. PEJK MALINOVSKI: And we have a lot more grain here. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You have to do that for five hours a day for six consecutive days. 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