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Ecclesiastes 8:14-15 meaning Although life is mysterious, Solomon has discovered by submitting to the God of Mystery, rather than trying to make sense of the world through human experience, he can enjoy and appreciate the best life has to offer. Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit in whatsoever state Who makes this observation? (Needing to give such instruction without any self-serving appearance could be part of why Solomon referred to himself as the Preacher throughout the book rather than as king.). I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). Weve seen that what we might assume to be for the best or worst is not necessarily so (6:17:15) and that all bear part in the worlds problemswith no one being innocent and deserving a trouble-free life (Ecclesiastes 7:16-29 Ecclesiastes 7:16-29 [16] Be not righteous over much; neither make yourself over wise: why should you destroy yourself ? Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him. Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Sutcliffe's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments Ecclesiastes 8:1. Hebrew word is applied not only to the pleasures arising from the "I'm a prosperous cheat, so God is condoning my cheating. That it was all labour in vain, Ecclesiastes 8:17; Ecclesiastes 8:17. (Note: Vid., Baer in Abodath Jisrael, p. But because God doesn't judge immediately, because the sentence of God isn't executed speedily, because God is giving you opportunity to turn, God is giving you opportunity to repent, God is giving you the opportunity to come out of your sin and to be saved and He's very patient with you. HIM IN HIS TOILS THROUGHOUT THE DAYS OF HIS LIFE WHICH GOD HA 14-17 Faith alone can establish the heart in this mixed scene, where But He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" ( 2 Peter 3:9 ). lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. Keeping this in mind results in a deep and abiding reverence for Godloving and trusting Him while recognizing His supreme power and holiness (see Hebrews 12:28-29 Hebrews 12:28-29 [28] Why we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 2. He's giving you chance after chance after chance. As Peter is talking about the second coming of the Lord, he said, "Hey, in the last days there are going to be scoffers that are going to come saying, 'Where is the promise of Jesus coming again? Benson Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:14-15. Commentary on Ecclesiastes 8:14-17 (Read Ecclesiastes 8:14-17) Rather, the meaning here is that the prudent, law-abiding citizen will receive no punishment from the governmentat least, generally speaking. Paul said, "Who are you to say unto Him that has created you, 'Why hast Thou made me thus?'" There is no specific reference to the government being righteous here, and the verses appear to end with the problem of human rule doing harm (verse 9), which we will return to. pleasant, and not distress themselves about things they cannot But it is tragic when people misinterpret God's patience and God's kindness. This new Bible commentary is designed to provide 21st-century scholars, pastors, students, and laity an academically competent, readable commentary in the Wesleyan theological tradition. and vexations arising from the vanity of the world. Sermon Bible Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:1-15. The Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the Ecclesiastes 8:15 Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament "And I commended joy, that there is nothing better for a man under the sun than to eat and drink and enjoy himself; and that this accompanies him in his labour throughout all the days of his life, which God hath given him under the sun." Ecclesiastes 2:14; Things being so, as was related, Wisdom helps people see the underlying meaning of things and teaches them that to act with pleasantness is better than to act with harshness (8:1). Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:13; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes I. observing that no difference is made between the righteous and Of course, it is true that human government has been established by God as a check against total lawlessness, as the apostle Paul explains in Romans 13. The words There is are in italics in the NKJV, showing theyve been added to the original wordingunnecessarily in this case. If, for example, people work in the kings palace, they will do what the king says, partly because they have sworn before God to be obedient and partly because they will be punished if they disobey. 39.). All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. When we look upon all the works of God and his providence, and compare one part with another, we cannot find that there is any such certain method by which the work that is done under the sun is directed; we cannot discover any key by which to decipher the character, nor by consulting precedents can we know the practice of this court, nor what the judgment will be. "There is no man that hath power, etc." ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). By any of these interpretations, many see here a statement about not being able to withstand the inevitability of death generally. Our present life is a life under the sun, but we look for the life of the world to come, which will commence and continue when the sun shall be turned into darkness and shine no more. 14 He's very patient. 1. They should not spend weary days and sleepless nights puzzling over problems to which only God knows the answer (16-17). There is a vanity which is done upon the earth Either by wicked potentates, who do commonly advance unworthy men, and oppress persons of the greatest virtue and merit: or, by God's providence, who sees it fit for many weighty reasons so to manage the affairs of the present world. Then, besides the perspective we need to have and the righteous life we are to persist in, we are again given the prescription of the books refrain in the third major sections conclusionthe enjoyment of life that God blesses us with: to eat, drink, and be merry (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version). People should not despair over these problems, but rather enjoy whatever God has given them in life (15). 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. He doesn't strike immediately, but oftentimes forestalls judgment for months, for years. Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. MIRTH - Better, Gladness, or joy (as in Ecclesiastes 2:10). Placing them at t _Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the Where the verse says they were forgotten, many others render this they were praised, reasoning that the positive eulogizing of the wicked after all their evil must be the vanity or frustration mentioned. 8 Who is as the wise man? Commentary, explanation and study verse by verse. i. Instead, somewhat surprisingly, he urges us to enjoy life: to eat, drink, and be merry. The Tyndale commentary notes: To his hurt (Heb[rew]) is not to his own hurt (AV [Authorized or KJV]) but to the hurt of the one under the abuser of power (note on verse 9). Verse 14 repeats the dilemma of Ecclesiastes 7:15 Ecclesiastes 7:15All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongs his life in his wickedness.American King James Versionthe righteous suffering what wickedness is supposed to result in and the wicked receiving what righteousness is supposed to result in. Therefore, consider ye actually this time as God's patience in order that men might be saved. Because I'm still blessed and I'm prosperous. Ecclesiastes 8:15 NIV - So I commend the enjoyment of life, - Bible Gateway Read the Bible Reading Plans Advanced Search Available Versions Audio Bibles Study Tools Scripture Engagement More Resources Explore More Newsletters Devotionals Bible Gateway App Bible Audio App Bible Gateway Blog Bible Gateway Plus Store Bibles Deals More Passage The point seems to be that if the king puts you to death for rebellion or crime, life is over. Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged, yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ): Now, in the end the best life is the life of fearing God, walking with God. [26] And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoever pleases God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her. He is not out to destroy us but to save us, as Hes said time and again. Dr. Walter Kaiser, whose overall outline weve been following, describes the chapter 8 subsection as follows: The removal of a large proportion of the apparent inequalities in divine providence comes from righteous government. This summary, however, does not appear to be quite accurate. That all of the talk of the rapture of the church and the return of Jesus Christ is just piped dreams, a misinterpretation of scriptures. A righteous man gets cancer; an unrighteous man gets cancer. American King James Version). _ 1. And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. And they give their hearts and their lives over to evil to live an evil life. Of that Solomon is certain. can do is to enjoy life while he has it. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him. It's going to be well with the man who has departed from evil. So, because God has waited so long, because God hasn't speedily executed His sentence against the evil, people begin to assume that God has just withdrawn Himself. But Peter said, "God isn't slack concerning His promises, as some men count slackness, but He's faithful to usward. We must keep in due subjection to the government God has set over us (v. 2-5). But he also knows that often the opposite is true (14). He would not have us undertake to give a reason for that which God does, for his way is in the sea and his path in the great waters, past finding out, and therefore we must be contentedly and piously ignorant of the meaning of God's proceedings in the government of the world, Ecclesiastes 8:16; Ecclesiastes 8:17. You see, the real delay in the return of Jesus Christ is just God's unwillingness that men should perish. man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as speaks in the person of the libertine, representing the objections of And He died. Honor all men. 2: vanitas vanitatum dixit Ecclesiastes vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas. [28] Which yet my soul seeks, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. It has a spirit of hopeless despair; it has no praise or peace; it seems to promote questionable conduct. Send inquiries regarding the operation of this Web site to webmaster@ucg.org. And thus, it appears that the evil man is getting away with his evil actions, his evil deeds. THE PROBLEM OF THE 2. Be discreet in relation with a ruler. All rights reserved. The writer knows what the traditional teachers say: that those who fear God will be rewarded and those who are wicked will be punished (12b-13). Fear God. He, for his part, had applied his heart to know this wisdom, and to see the business that is done, by the divine Providence, upon the earth, to find out if there were any certain scheme, any constant rule or method, by which the affairs of this lower world were administered, any course of government as sure and steady as the course of nature, so that by what is done now we might as certainly foretel what will be done next as by the moon's changing now we can foretel when it will be at the full; this he would fain have found out. Matthew Henry Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary - Ecclesiastes 10:4-11. 3: quid habet amplius homo de universo labore suo quod laborat sub sole. This is because the instruction referred to obeying the king in general, whoever he wasor to obeying whatever human authority was in power. We should respect and follow that rule, with the benefits of doing so and the avoidance of an approach that will bring more troubles on us than would otherwise ensue. Romans 13 speaks of rulers executing wrath on evildoers. The wicked will not ultimately be prolonged, yet the righteous will. Ecclesiastes 10:4 Ecclesiastes 10:4If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses.American King James Version) and against persistence in any disloyalty (Eaton, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries, note on Ecclesiastes 8:2-3 Ecclesiastes 8:2-3 [2] I counsel you to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. He would not have us to be surprised at it, as though some strange thing happened, for he himself saw it in his days, Ecclesiastes 8:14; Ecclesiastes 8:14. Ecclesiastes 8:10 i _Then I commended mirth_ As before in chs. this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he [6] For whom the Lord loves he chastens, and whips every son whom he receives. We must keep in due subjection to the government God has set over us ( v. 2-5 ). Thinks he has put one over on God. We must arm ourselves against the temptation of an oppressive government and not think it strange (v. 9, 10). days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by In fact, Solomon himself wrote elsewhere, The fear of the LORD prolongs days, but the years of the wicked will be shortened (Proverbs 10:27 Proverbs 10:27The fear of the LORD prolongs days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened.American King James Version). of his life, Eat, drink, and be joyful, for tomorrow we die! Fear of the Lord is to depart from evil. So I know that in the long run that life is the best. No man has any power over the spirit. Things happen to both good and evil men. . Here he shows, 1. Of the righteous and the wicked (Ecclesiastes 8:11) We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. Nay, [3.] There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). verba Ecclesiastes filii David regis Hierusalem. There is a serenity that comes with things starting to make senseand with trusting that God knows whatHes doing when things still dont. In order to keep with what He said, "No man takes My life," when He was hanging there on the cross after He cried, "It is finished" ( John 19:30 ), "Father, into Thy hands I commend My Spirit" ( Luke 23:46 ), He bowed His head, and it said, "And He dismissed His Spirit." Section 5. 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. 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